CARR QUITS

Bob Carr will resign next Monday after ten years as Premier of NSW. He may be replaced by the vegan Carl Scully.

UPDATE. The working man’s view:

Labor leader Kim Beazley said Mr Carr was, as Charles de Gaulle might have said, “un homme sérieux” (a serious man).

UPDATE II. The BBC reports:

Perhaps the greatest achievement of his premiership was bringing the 2000 Olympic games to the state capital, Sydney.

He also caused the Great Hail Disaster of 1999.

Posted by Tim B. on 07/26/2005 at 08:27 PM
    1. I would like to say that I will miss him but that would be an untruth.  He has assisted in the creation of a police force that is totally unengaged with the population, endorsed health unions taking hospital service costs to record levels, failed to adequately ensure long term water supplies, given road building over to Macquarrie Bank and many other long term structural failures. On the positive side…

      Posted by allan on 2005 07 26 at 09:36 PM • permalink

 

    1. I will eat a steak in honor of the new guy.

      Posted by Andrew on 2005 07 26 at 09:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hello Canberra ?

      Surely it wouldn’t take much to roll Bomber Beazley … well, after you get him moving, it wouldn’t take much.

      Posted by 2BarRiff on 2005 07 26 at 09:58 PM • permalink

 

    1. Jeebus- they’re retiring faster than an Italian armoured division; up here it’s been two so far this week– the only down side is that the replacement is likely to be more venal, incompetent and brain-damaged than the previous incumbent. Why does Australian politics attract such deadshits?

      Posted by Habib on 2005 07 26 at 10:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. C’mon Bracksie, what’s holding you back?

      Posted by slatts on 2005 07 26 at 10:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. Look on the bright side, Habib: better in politics than in business. At least that’s the theory in the US.

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 07 26 at 10:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. Allan, you forgot his triumph with Sydney’s trains.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2005 07 26 at 10:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. Like most chicken-shit Labor pollies…let’s quit while I’m ahead ‘cause I’m gonna get voted out next election anyway.

      Bracksy will be next.

      In the best ‘jobs for the boys’ tradition, I await for Bob the Builder to show up on the Federal Opposition front bench.

      Time to call in a few favours Kim…

      Posted by Jay Santos on 2005 07 26 at 10:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. …the Sydney Olympics were “perhaps the happiest time in Australian history”…

      Still waiting for the final bill on that one too Bob.

      Posted by Jay Santos on 2005 07 26 at 10:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. Thankfully, the ANZAC Rifle Range at Malabar has outlasted his decade-long crusade to close it.

      When Club Med initially put their hand up in the 80’s, he opposed the selloff by the Commonwealth.  Then something changed and developers like the State-run Landcom decided they could make a mint off stuff like Little Bay and suddenly all that changed.

      His recent rhetoric about ‘publc open space’ was laughable, too, as a trip to Google Maps/Earth proved – there’s that muc h open space in the local area already, there was no need at all to close down the 95-yr old rifle range just so they could get a few more hectares.

      Long live citizen marksmanship!

      Posted by ausdiplomad on 2005 07 26 at 10:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. The SMH is busy saying that his key achievements were the Olympics and Education.  I might give him the olympics, (except that John Fahey and the beaurocrats should get a fair bit of the credit for that, too), but

      Education????

      That must be why the public school system is being abandoned in droves then. Or was that the plan?

      Posted by entropy on 2005 07 26 at 10:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. #4 Habib from the website given:

      Goofy-toothed ferret-faced rat-brained deputy Premier and Queensland treasurer Terry Mackenroth

      Very apt description – he’s the one who said that an inquiry into the Bundaberg Hospital and Qld Health in general was a waste of taxpayer’s money.

      Him, the one who is a sport nut and had Lang Park re-built for a berzillion bucks. At taxpayers’ expense.

      Good riddance.

      Posted by kae on 2005 07 26 at 10:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. Obviously he hasn’t recovered from Latham’s biting “A-Grade Arsehole” reference and has decided to opt out. Diddums.

      Politics is no place for those sad bastards, such as Carr, inflicted with terminal cases of the ailment commonly known as glass jaw syndrome – not surprisingly it has reached epidemic proportions in the ALP. As for SA’s Mike Rann glowing tribute to Carr as “one of the few genuine intellectuals elected to high office in our nation” – what can I say? “Intellectual”?? – my arse!!

      P.S. Please, for the relection chances of the Coalition, let it be true that Carr is heading to Canberra. Don’t quite know what it is but there is something about Bob Carr and Canberra that fits like a hand in glove. What could it be? Dreariness perhaps?

      Posted by TruthHandler on 2005 07 26 at 10:46 PM • permalink

 

    1. Cast the recreant Carr forth into the outer darkness of — Byron Bay!

      Hey, it’s in Leviticus…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 07 26 at 10:47 PM • permalink

 

    1. it will be very interesting to see the outcome of the two by-elections in Queensland.
      Hollis held Redcliffe with a first preference vote of 50%, while Mackenroth had Chatsworth at 56%. 
      At a by-election, the liberal party won’t be held back by the nats (many SEQ voters who vote liberal at the federal level obviously vote labor at the state level, primarily, I suspect, because they do not want the national party, who are the dominant coalition partner, in power).
      There is also talk of the local council member, Michael Caltibriano, standing in Chatsworth, who is also State Liberal president.  His first pref vote in the last council elections was 67%. 
      There is also the usual ‘kick the government’ reaction in a by-election.This *could* end up an upset, with the loss of both safe seats.
      In labor’s favour, there is the Nat factor, the Act that requires council members to resign before standing for election (designed to nobble the nats), and the fact that even with the implosion of the hospital system, people still like Premier beattie. 

      And then there is a possiblity of even more Qld Ministers jumping ship yet, if rumours I have heard are true….

      Posted by entropy on 2005 07 26 at 10:56 PM • permalink

 

    1. He’s not going to Canberra, something’s happened, some massive scandel that’s about to come out. He’s abandoning ship.

      Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 07 26 at 11:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. #16.Spot on.I’m with you AG.

      Posted by Lew on 2005 07 26 at 11:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. Re Update: “un homme sérieux”.

      You can’t write this stuff. It’s like someone’s given Buckets Beazley a list of things NOT to say and he’s read the top one on the list.

      Maybe he’s aiming for a shadow Defence ministry portfolio on Carr’s Federal front bench.

      Posted by 2BarRiff on 2005 07 26 at 11:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. From homme serieux to pomme serieux?

      Posted by paco on 2005 07 26 at 11:47 PM • permalink

 

    1. Gee, a Labour man who speaks French! Must be an intellectual. Haven’t we had enough of these New Age, sensitive, chardonnay Labour leaders like Carr who looks as much at home at the RL Grand Final in the Telstra Stadium as a pork chop in a mosque(pardon any religious vilification here)?  For the next NSW ALP leader, perhaps we get back to the traditional Sussex Street right-wing factional, hard-drinking, womanising, slightly bent, Tammany types, who don’t read poetry or go bushwalking and who would throw up if anyone spoke French at them. I suppose it’s too much to ask.

      John Howard has more of the common touch and understands the Aussie character better than any of these inner-city posturing Labour poofs.

      I guess all the workers in the logging industry will be cheering Bob’s departure. And maybe we can now get a dam built on the Shoalhaven, to provide Sydney with enough water. Little issues, but they mean a lot.

      Posted by mr magoo on 2005 07 26 at 11:58 PM • permalink

 

    1. Inside goss (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) is that he was given an ultimatum by ALP power brokers – get out or get shoved out.

      Watch the press, but you heard it here first…

      Posted by Nemesis on 2005 07 27 at 12:28 AM • permalink

 

    1. Paco — A serious potato?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 07 27 at 12:29 AM • permalink

 

    1. Peut-être un anus sérieux?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 07 27 at 12:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. What’s going on over that side of the Nullarbor? Labor pollies jumping ship en masse…can’t wait to get home and tune in to PM for Big Kim’s paean to Carr. Ten years at the top – Kimboy can only look on and wonder what it’s like.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2005 07 27 at 12:56 AM • permalink

 

    1. BTW — Why a Vegan?  Couldn’t you get a hot Andorian dancing girl?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 07 27 at 01:38 AM • permalink

 

    1. Why is Fatboy calling him a poofter?

      Posted by Habib on 2005 07 27 at 01:42 AM • permalink

 

    1. #16 all the dirt on Orange Grove isn’t public yet – agree there’s some shitty laundry about to get an airing

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 27 at 01:42 AM • permalink

 

    1. The post-mortem on Bob the Egghead’s premiership won’t be done until they lose the next election. Then we’ll see what the fuck happened to all the money.
      My guess is the Olympics had a fair bit to do with it.
      At a time when NSW experienced the biggest property boom ever, combined with an extraordinarily robust economy courtesy of the Man of Steel JWH Carr managed to oversee virtual terminal decline of just about every state service.
      Don’t forget that this prick picked up the stamp duty on every property transaction during the boom yet is still crying poor. As the boom slowed the stupid bastard then slugged us with the vedor duty just to make sure the porperty market totally shat itself. Refshauge the leftwinger would approve though, after all property is theft to those bastards aint it?
      No-one has been too interested but there seems to have been an absolute motza went west during the past five years. Hope the bastard enjoyed the Olympics cause I reckon we are still paying for them.

      Posted by Harold on 2005 07 27 at 01:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. Vegan, tree-hugging, whale-loving, Mardi Gras marcher, bush-walker, inner-city luvvy, chardonnay-sipping, Howard-hating, western-suburbs alienated: they are all part of the syndrome that defines New Labour.

      The nearest of the likely leadership candidates to Old Labour is Craig Knowles. He won’t get the nurses’ vote, but at least he likes meat.

      Posted by mr magoo on 2005 07 27 at 01:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. Oh and at the same time he introduced a vendor duty and widened the land tax net here what did Carr do?
      He bought a block of land in New Zealand – where they don’t have all those taxes.

      Posted by Harold on 2005 07 27 at 01:54 AM • permalink

 

    1. Expect Carr to head to that block of land as soon as he can.

      Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 07 27 at 02:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. I know you want him gone Tim but unless the SMH is wrong he retires Wednesday not Monday.

      Posted by gubba on 2005 07 27 at 02:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. It is hard to see why someone would take on State politics in Australia today.  Its a management job and the pay is ok but not commensurate to the responsibilities when measured against the private sector.

      If they do take it on, we have to look closely at their motives.  Is it a stepping stone, do they have a tradition of public service in their family or is it a power trip? When reviewing Bob Carr I can’t escape the conclusion that it has been a power trip and an exercise in narcisism.  He has genuinely felt all along that he is smarter and better than the rest of us.

      That he had no street smarts continually surprised him.  That he created no loyaly in his state and party will probably surprise him further. There were many tough issues to be faced in his tenure. Police corruption was one of them and he faced it in a typically abstract way.  He hired a hatchet man from the UK with a dubious achievement record but who could be said to be clean.  The detailed management of the transformation of the police was something he left to others and we get the situation where riots occur nights in a row in an outer Sydney suburb and nobody has a clue what to do about it.

      The Sydney Olympics were a life time event.  They were incredible to attend and really will have long term benefits to Sydney and our international reputation.  Even now I am certain that tourism and our exporters benefit from the reputation we gained.  What is not clear is the extent of the role played by Carr in this success. He certainly was a key player but one of many.

      The best that I can say of Bob is that I have no evidence he was corrupt, merely not very good.

      Posted by allan on 2005 07 27 at 02:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. All very well Allan but what the fuck happened to all the money?
      I don’t believe he was corrupt either – but there seems to be a big gap between the revenue and the state of the …state!

      Posted by Harold on 2005 07 27 at 02:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. Such cynicism. Bob Carr is brilliant. Reports of Liberal staffers doing handstands, so relieved were they at his retirement sums it all up. No one could lay a glove on him. It wouldn’t kill you to be gracious to him on this day, was surprised Howard wasn’t, quite out of character.

      Game on.

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 27 at 02:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. Harold
      Where did the money go?
      Easy,
      If you are a dimwitted leftie proposing some stupid progamme like teaching kids to graffitti you get thousands of bucks.
      Therefore the equation is;
      Dimwitted lefties in NSW   X   Thousands of bucks X Obscene frequency =  What the fuck happened to all the money?

      Posted by gubba on 2005 07 27 at 03:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. Why should we be gracious to that ineffectual tosspot? He was a spekky twat of the first order as premier, but a mere dillantante as a truly inept, venal, autocratic and malfeasant state leader- grinning idiot Peter Beattie and Brackistan Poobah Steve Bracks make him look like the true amateur he always was.

      It is hard to see why someone would take on State politics in Australia today.  Its a management job and the pay is ok but not commensurate to the responsibilities when measured against the private sector.

      Except in the private sector you’re expected to have qualifications, skills and experience for such a position, and be responsible to a board, shareholders and regulatory authorites for your performance. In state politics, you’re elected. Full stop. The worst that can happen if you really fuck up is to be moved to the backbench, and have to wait a bit to get appointed to one of the regulatory authorities that persecute the private sector.
      Sure it doesn’t pay much, but it’s heaps more than any of these dribbling retards would be paid on merit.

      Posted by Habib on 2005 07 27 at 03:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. Bob Carr was a very effective politician in the way he dealt with a mostly ineffective, mediocre opposition while he also used his considerable media skills to outstanding effect in retaining power and deflecting criticism.
      Beyond that the criticisms raised here are valid. There are substantial matters to be addressed regarding his stewardship of NSW and the state he has left it in.
      And I don’t have to like a prick who introduced the vendor duty.

      Posted by Harold on 2005 07 27 at 03:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. Harold, at least yours is quitting. Bracksy had all that plus increased revenue from speeding fines, plus a big surplus courtesy of Jeff K, and still managed to piss the whole lot up against the wall.
      The next Vic state election should be interestnig – it’s almost a pity we don’t change governments the way they used to do in South America, ie. with a blindfold, a wall and a last cigarette.

      Posted by Rachel Corrie’s Flatmate on 2005 07 27 at 03:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. Reports of Liberal staffers doing handstands, so relieved were they at his retirement sums it all up.

      I’m sure much of humanity was doing the same thing. Doesn’t prove your point.

      Posted by Rachel Corrie’s Flatmate on 2005 07 27 at 03:11 AM • permalink

 

    1. Its true FusterCluck, Victorian Labor premiers really do know how to send a state backwards.
      In that, at least, I’m prepared to say Victoria is better than NSW.

      Posted by Harold on 2005 07 27 at 03:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. Yes, Fuster, it’s almost like a law of nature: Liberal governments build up strong economies in Victoria, then a Labor government comes in and takes about one and a half terms to reduce the state to penury, or, in John Cain’s case, bankruptcy.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2005 07 27 at 03:28 AM • permalink

 

    1. The state is a mess, that Carr is now gone means it might not become a bigger mess. When someone makes a mess, someone else has to clean it up, and that isn’t always fun.

      From Andy’s own blog

      Between Neville Wran and Bob Carr, Labor has produced astonishingly good state leaders. Moderate, in touch with the community, never out-flanked on law and order.

      Comparing the two is impossible. One was brilliant, the other genius.

      Says it all really.

      Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 07 27 at 03:48 AM • permalink

 

    1. #35 Bob Carr brilliant? Keep telling yourself that as you’re shuffled from hospital to hospital after drinking bottled water made from recycled urine on an overcrowded late train.

      Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 07 27 at 03:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. The BBC has it wrong I think. Nick Greiner was Premier when the Olympiucs bid was launched, and John Fahey when they were won.  Bob did a fair job managing the delivery.

      I like him – and I hope that there is not some dreadful health concern behind the resignation.

      Posted by PeterTB on 2005 07 27 at 03:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. #45. You like him, I loathe him. I hope his non-functioning penis falls off and he slips over on it fracturing his tiny ugly alien pointed non-car driving head. Thanks for F#%&ing; up NSW you ugly little evil midget!

      Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 07 27 at 04:29 AM • permalink

 

    1. #16 Isn’t this a bit reminiscent of the Wran departure? IIRC there were unsubstantiated “rumours” that he abandoned ship before the axe fell. Perhaps Carr will try for a Canberra job as it is obvoius to everyone Labour are in big trouble with their personalities and the string pullers must be tearing their hair out looking for foremen material. If not Carr then who? Peter Beattie?….heaven forbid if that bleating media tart hears the call.

      #15 Entrophy. Even the drovers dog could beat Labour in an election, which doesn’t say much for the Libs/Nats. That’s why Beattie can get away with any BS he serves u. The rats aren’t jumping ship because it’s sinking; they’re just bored out of their brains and are anxious to spend their fat super payout happy in the knowledge they haven’t had to really worry about answering to the public for their incompetence. Without an effective opposition Queensland politics has been as interesting as watching 2 snails racing across the Nullabor.

      Posted by Spag-oz on 2005 07 27 at 04:29 AM • permalink

 

    1. Bob Carr:

      * Strong supporter of the War on Terror

      * Sound economic manager

      * Long record of support of US Alliance

      * Tough on crime

      No one is perfect of course and running the NSW Budget is not easy with the subsidies it pays out to smaller states but I think he’s been tremendous. The tree-hugging thing never appealed to me much but it was good politics probably.

      I don’t think anyone would deem me a radical lefty and as we reflect on Bob Carr’s decade, I think it’s hard to grade him as anything other than a solid A.

      Labor produces lots of duds and lots of nutcases but also produces a fair bit of quality, especially in NSW. Bob Carr was A grade quality and did his Party and NSW proud.

      I’m told Morris Iemma has the numbers, and he eats lefties for breakfast so I hope he can fill Bob Carr’s big shoes.

      Game on.

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 27 at 04:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. Andrew Landeryou, I am prepared to be gracious to Bob Carr as he announces his retirement There will always be things we can find to criticise about any politician,(wouldn’t blogs be boring if there weren’t?) but I think that Bob Carr was one of the better ones. Good luck to him in his retirement.

      Posted by Tempo on 2005 07 27 at 05:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. Strong supporter of the War on Terror;

      Not his jurisdiction. He can sound as tough as he likes without having to do anything.

      * Sound economic manager

      Balanced budgets till now. Still with all the GST revenue and corporate taxes he had a lot of help.

      * Long record of support of US Alliance

      Does that mean he loves GWB? Or is he looking for tenure at Colorado State? 

      * Tough on crime

      Bullshit. He pretended to be tough. Granted he campaigned forthe worst crims to serve long stints in jail to prove the point. However all the rest get off easy. It’s a joke. All those progressive judges prefer crims on the street.

      Oh and please stop saying game on Andrew.

      Posted by gubbaboy on 2005 07 27 at 05:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. Andrew Landeryou knows a bit about sound economic management . . .

      Game on, Andrew.

      Posted by Young and Free on 2005 07 27 at 05:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. Bob Carr:

      * Strong supporter of the War on Terror

      Indeed he is.

      * Sound economic manager

      Bollocks, he has ridden prosperous times and still had to increase taxes, all while allowing the trains/hospitals/police force to turn into a shambles.

      * Long record of support of US Alliance

      Again, i agree.

      * Tough on crime

      Well, if you count turning the police force into a organisation more concerned with P.R. and counselling than catching crooks and law enforcement then.. Sure!!

      Posted by RhikoR on 2005 07 27 at 05:59 AM • permalink

 

 

    1. Young and Free

      1) I’ve sponged off no-one ever

      2) I’ve fought and beaten more lefties than you will ever meet

      3) Bob Carr rocks

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 27 at 06:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. Kimberley might have something to say about point (1) . . .

      And ALP right-wing wannabe is still a lefty in my books.

      Posted by Young and Free on 2005 07 27 at 06:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. As to his foreign affairs credentials, it was never his protfolio, so who gives a shit? Bob Brown can spruik all he likes on any bollocks, but never has to actually implement any of it; same goes for state politicians spruiking federal issues. Tough on crime/supporter of the war on terrorism? That’s why MacQuarie Fields bogans and Redfern Aboriginies could run riot for days while an ineffectual police force stood by and watched; he allowed Jenny Brockie’s hatchet job on Redfern cops to go unchallenged (and the area become a policing-free zone) and allowed worry over Roger Rogerson’s links to crims to make NSW Police too scared to have anything to do with criminals, and utterly useless at intel gathering, let alone enforcement, and they joined the Victorian Police as an armed branch of the Office of State Revenue. No sign of any sort of clampdown on the misanthropic mullahs and their gang-raping, car stealing flock in Lakemba either.
      Four-eyed non-driving hippy wanker.

      Posted by Habib on 2005 07 27 at 06:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. Interesting the note Kerry O’Brien started his segment with – Bob, how can you go now when we need your experienced hands to deal with the splodeytypes? Bob was having none of that – quite an irrelevant consideration!
      You cannot help but wonder about his motives. He has no more important interest than politics or he would not have been in it for so long: including opposition leader for seven years, then Premier for ten.
      It is a case of (a)shit about to hit the turbines, and (b)keeping as squeaky clean as possible for run at Federal job.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2005 07 27 at 07:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. Young and Free clearly isn’t reading my blog, the award winningOC. Without the benefit of his cloak of anonymity, I am slugging it out with leftists and enjoying every minute.

      So Young and Free, (I doubt you are either)when you reveal who you are I’ll continue the discussion about my family, the extent of my considerable financial contribution thereto and the fact that unlike you – who talks the talk of free enterprise while probably in some public service bludger position – I’m actually a practitioner of freedom. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

      Bob Carr still rocks.

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 27 at 07:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. Oh yeah, and if I’m a lefty then you’re a high achiever.

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 27 at 07:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. Whoever replaces Bob please let it not be Carl Scully. I still remember the pompous twit debating a doctor on the Today show years ago. Seems that Carl doesn’t believe in immunisation and had written a book drawing on all the authority of his legal qualifications.  After harping on all the usual scares against immunisation, his response to the doctor, who simply said that one example of not immunising was four children currently in her hospital with whooping cough, was to accuse her of being alarmist. I had rarely seen such a smarmy performance.

      Posted by Francis H on 2005 07 27 at 07:43 AM • permalink

 

    1. I for one have got to give Andrew Landeryou credit for strolling in here, like Sylvester into Granny’s backyard full of bulldogs.  Balls of steel, my friend.  I hope you can stop by again, Andrew, next time we’re having a session on student unions. Your input will be invaluable.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2005 07 27 at 08:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’ve been lurking for a long time. Tim Blair’s blog is one of the best reads going. I think you will find the things that unite us far more significant than the things that divide us. Now who said that?

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 27 at 08:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. He is going Fed I reckon if no health probs in the family.
      Note he gave as his reason for NOT going into Fed politics the fact that he was LOYAL to Kim Beazley.Also that there was a “chain of command/inheritance” which meant Kimbo was the NATURAL HEIR apparent.
      THIS MEANS WAR.

      Posted by crash on 2005 07 27 at 08:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. Would’nt ya reckon that after parachuting in Biff and Baldy they would be over the Messiah syndrome.
      They just don’t get it do they?
      To win government you have to have a shred of credibility and be prepared to work hard.
      And be true to yourself.Like John W.

      Posted by crash on 2005 07 27 at 09:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. 22. Richard: An attempted allusion to the vegan status of the new guy, with a twist on Carr’s French affectation. Sorry; it was late at night and I had just completed my daily two and a half hour (each way)commute on AmTrak (motto: “Relax, you’ll get there eventually”). Off topic, but I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that one of AmTrak’s excuses for poor service is opposition to fascism (“Timely service? So, you’d rather have Mussolini in charge, eh?”).

      Posted by paco on 2005 07 27 at 09:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. He has been talking about stuff outside of state politics, he may be completely blindsiding Beazley. He’ll find blindsiding Australian voters won’t help him any though, neither will the possible title of Paul Keating Mk2. They were best mates as I recall.

      Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 07 27 at 09:26 AM • permalink

 

    1. WTF does lowlife like Andy Landy know about the quality of Bob Carr, or anything else for that matter?  Andy learned all the ALP lessons – piss squillions of other people’s hard-earned up against the wall, play the man not the ball, bludge off your colleagues then stiff them, run away overseas when things get a bit whiffy, leave your family to pay the bill, etc etc etc

      Landeryou is – given the record of Wran, Cain & Carr – fully capable of becoming what passes for a premier in the ALP’s mirror-world of ethics & responsible government

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 27 at 09:50 AM • permalink

 

    1. Well – as much as Carr was the enemy. He could have been worse – i.e. like Refshauge or Scully or Knowles or Costa et al…

      His departure is the best thing to happen to the NSW Libs for a while. They might even have a fighting chance next election.

      As for the puffed up Mr Landy… I’ll believe you’ve “fought and beaten more lefties” when you tell me you’ve never been part of an ALP faction. Because in my book, being on the ALP right doesn’t mean you’re not still a pinko lefty.

      Posted by Fred Kelly on 2005 07 27 at 09:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. #68 thanks for reminding us of Eel Boy, Fred

      eeeeeeeeeeel boy

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 27 at 10:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. and Bob Carr didn’t win the Olympics for Sydney either – he was in opposition at the time

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 27 at 10:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. Bob Carr?

      Nothing so became him in office as the leaving of it.

      Posted by Toryhere2 on 2005 07 27 at 06:23 PM • permalink

 

    1. Good one KK, brave words from an anonymous public sector bludger. I congratulate you on your courage and your repeated receipt of government grants.

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 27 at 06:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. Oh yes that mad lefty (not) Greg Sheridan of the Australian said this of Bob Carr inter alia:

      In what is now approaching three decades of interviewing political leaders across the world, Carr is the wittiest, cleverest and most generally erudite politician I’ve met anywhere.

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 27 at 06:38 PM • permalink

 

    1. All of you who are waxing sentimental about Carr obviously don’t travel on Sydney trains, don’t use public hospitals and haven’t been robbed or broken into. Probably don’t live in Sydney anyway. Get a reality check. Life in this city has deteriorated under Carr’s masterly inactivity approach to governing.

      Posted by mr magoo on 2005 07 27 at 06:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. Oscar Wilde was witty and erudite as well, but I wouldn’t let him run a rie cart let alone a state government. Carr was an intellectual oaf, but still not as utterly corrupt and disastrous as Beattie and Bracks; some epitaph.

      Posted by Habib on 2005 07 27 at 06:54 PM • permalink

 

    1. Oops- should be “pie cart”.

      Posted by Habib on 2005 07 27 at 06:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. Landy you’re a tosser. Spouting bollocks about beating lefties. The lady doth protest too much.

      Posted by Fred Kelly on 2005 07 27 at 07:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. #77. It is said that the empty can rattles the most.
      And Andrew, your blog sucks mate. Just my opinion.

      Posted by Rachel Corrie’s Flatmate on 2005 07 27 at 07:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. I feel like a Paddington black turtleneck wearer the day after John Howard has lost an election. My life will be so empty without Kaiser Bob to hate.

      Posted by monaro on 2005 07 27 at 09:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. Carr’s most effective ‘contribution’ to the NSW Gov’t was his undoubted expertise in building a PR machine sufficiently professional to blind the media to his government’s consistent, obvious shortcomings. If a Liberal premier was in charge of the current mess known as public transport, had a run-down, politicised education system driven by an active policy of cost-shifting to parents and the Commonwealth, could not guarantee operating theatre time within a year to hundreds of people waiting for hip and knee replacements (let alone more serious conditions) and had a cabinet with incompetents like Scully and Meagher, there’d be page 1 ‘shock horror’ material published every day. Carr’s background as a journalist has helped, but his extravagant spending on PR has been the real driver.

      Carr deserves plaudits for creating and preserving one of the best national park systems anywhere, and for delegating the Olympics to an arrogant, hard-nosed get-the-job-done-no matter-what-type in Michael Knight (but no credit for bringing the Olympics to Sydney – that was NOT his doing). Apart from that, his 10 years at the helm has seen NSW go seriously backwards.

      At a personal level, he seems a nice bloke and his wife seems like a jewel. I wish them both well in retirement but the sooner the next state election rolls around, the better.

      Posted by kywong73 on 2005 07 27 at 11:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. Re postings from Andrew Landeryou:

      PM reported on 5th May 2005 “The failed Melbourne businessman and Labor apparatchik, Andrew Landeryou, has finally appeared in court to explain his alleged involvement in the financial collapse of the Melbourne University Student Union.”

      Gee, Andrew, is this you??? If so, it’s good to know ex-Premier Carr’s PR is now in such accomplished hands.

      Posted by kywong73 on 2005 07 27 at 11:15 PM • permalink

 

    1. The only thing outstanding about this root is the fact that he just walked away from a very attractive trough.Labor politicians at any level from Prime Minister down to the lowest bribe-taking Labor Mayor are not known for this kind of self immolation.Normal practice is for them to be dragged screaming and kicking from their profitable positions which in this case leads one to suspect that more time for sipping Chardonnay and holding hands with Helena on sunny Sunday afternoons is just so much cocky shit.The question is,who has got what on him and will his resignation be enough to keep the lid on.Maybe Andrew L,with his impeccable right-wing Labor connections,could check with a few of the Mates and then let us in on the secret.

      Posted by Lew on 2005 07 28 at 12:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. #72 raw nerve eh andy? so we’ll be seeing you back in the ALP fold & challenging Bracks for the leadership then?

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 28 at 12:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. Very effective politician.

      I’m not saying I agreed with everything he did, but he was still a very effective politician. And I fail to see how the state Libs under Brogden fail to offer an real alternative. They just bleat. Much like federal labor.

      Posted by Gruntled on 2005 07 28 at 01:53 AM • permalink

 

    1. C’mon, give Landeryou a break. I paid $900 or so in compulsory student union fees and I had ONE subsidised meal of pasta that only cost me $5.50. You cant beat that for value.

      Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 07 28 at 03:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. I note poor old KK hasn’t denied public sector bludging. I feel sorry for the anarcho-capitalist who works for Centrelink. My condolences. I favour freedom, not just talking but fighting for it.

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 28 at 04:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. #86 fighting for freedom – that’d be your own personal freedom then?  not noticed a long history of you wanting anyone else to have some – your editing of comments on your blog is just the most recent expression of control freakery

      keep guessing about my bludging habits

      #85 that pasta must have been good if you never went back for seconds – and a useful guide to the value of union membership generally

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 28 at 05:56 AM • permalink

 

    1. Young and Free clearly isn’t reading my blog, the award winningOC. Without the benefit of his cloak of anonymity, I am slugging it out with leftists and enjoying every minute.

      So Young and Free, (I doubt you are either)when you reveal who you are I’ll continue the discussion about my family, the extent of my considerable financial contribution thereto and the fact that unlike you – who talks the talk of free enterprise while probably in some public service bludger position – I’m actually a practitioner of freedom. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

      Bob Carr still rocks.

      Wanker,

      (1) I had a look at your blog – fucked if I can work out what awards it might have won. And if you reckon you’re slugging it out with leftists, that only proves how narrow your field of political vision is.

      (2) I’m young enough – 37, and still running 5 km in times good enough to pass the Army PFTs I ran in my late teens and early twenties. And I live in a prosperous, democratic first world country, unlike so many of the third world fucked up socialist shitholes I’ve had the pleasure of working in and seeing first hand. So that makes me free.

      (3) Apart from military service (infantry), I’ve never been on a public sector payroll. I’m currently employed by the consulting offshoot of a chartered accounting firm (
      a profession with which you’ve been in contact).

      (4) I maintain a degree of privacy in my blog posts because I keep my business and my politics separate – essential in my line of work with private and public sector clients. And when i used to have my email address showing, I got too much spam.

      (5) I’ve never bankrupted my wife or dad.

      (6) I’ve never fucked off overseas to avoid my responsibilities.

      (7) I’ve never been in gaol.

      Stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

      Posted by Young and Free on 2005 07 28 at 07:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. Oh yeah . . . and John So seriously rocks.

      Posted by Young and Free on 2005 07 28 at 07:28 AM • permalink

 

    1. #88 well said, Y&F

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 28 at 08:20 AM • permalink

 

    1. Two anonymous cowards, KK and Young and Free enjoying their fortnightly bounty from Centrelink while preaching about the free enterprise system. I agree with your rhetoric, I’d just like to see match the reality of your taxpayer subsidised web surfing lifestyle. Tossers.

      Game on.

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 28 at 08:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. Young and Free, please prove your employment at this chartered accounting firm by emailing me from your work email at landeryou (at) gmail.com, you won’t because you can’t. The wicked webs we weave hey?

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 28 at 08:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. And Young & Free, was thrilled to hear you’ve found yourdream woman, perhaps you’ll lie to her less than you are lying to us. Still waiting for that email, tosser.

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 28 at 08:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. oh per-lease – why would Y&F provide a work email address for you to spam or hack?  none of us have to prove anything to you.  you, however, have a way to go to get the world at large to believe all the nasty things they say about you in the blatts are untrue

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 28 at 08:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. KK, am impressed mate that you’re still at work at Centrelink at this late hour. Great to hear. You’re rekindling my exhausted faith in the welfare state, singlehandedly. Be proud. As for having to prove anything, I agree, so why make the false claim of working for a chartered accountant in the first place? All very odd. What’s a blatt? Is this a public service term?

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 28 at 09:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. i think you’re confusing me with that ALP councillor at Glen Eira who naughtily looked up a Lib on the Centrelink database

      but you could pop in there tomorrow & see if there are any jobs – in real estate perhaps

      a blatt is a newspaper – as in the Berliner Tageblatt – but you knew that

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 28 at 10:38 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hey Andrew,

      I liked the Japanese android woman . . . she’s no good for you, though, because she doesn’t have a house you can have sold out from under her.

      Posted by Young and Free on 2005 07 28 at 05:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. KK, I truly didn’t know the blatt expression, that’s a good one. Be careful using strange expressions and referring to certain municipalities, I will work out who you are and then unleash the legendary investigative abilities of the award-winningOther Cheek upon your public sector life. And we wouldn’t want that.

      Young & Free, I have no doubt you’d be well suited to the robo-girl, a cheap date for you anyway.

      Now I’m still waiting for that email from your “Arthur Andersen” workplace, I’ve heard of imaginary friends but never an imaginary job. Do these thoughts help you through your days at Centrelink? Are you in the cardigan wearing school or the nose-ring leftist variety? Just curious…

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 28 at 06:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. Poor Andrew’s fallen off the Labore gravy train! diddums!! Back to the pokey for you!

      Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 07 28 at 09:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. #98 ooooooo threats now, is it?  and a hint of anti-semitism perhaps? well i guess that exposes you for what you are – a typical ALP-bred thug

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 28 at 11:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. KK, you public servant leftists are always the first to accuse their opponents of racism. Shame on you.

      Posted by Andrew Landeryou on 2005 07 29 at 02:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. Dear Andrew L, KK, Young & Free et al,

      While the hi-jacking of this thread has been really amusing, could you perhaps move the OT comments to a different place?

      Thanks.

      Posted by 2BarRiff on 2005 07 29 at 02:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. #102 nah – i want to see if we can get the comment thread over 150 posts by a succession of stuff of total irrelevance to the Carr resignation – help me here Y&F

      besides, any diversion of andy landy from writing “award winning” bollox on his blog is A Good Thing

      i bet he’s got the “notify me of follow-up comments” box ticked

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 29 at 04:30 AM • permalink

 

    1. Young & Free, I have no doubt you’d be well suited to the robo-girl, a cheap date for you anyway.

      Sorry wanker, but I’m still married. Our house didn’t get sold out from under my wife, and I didn’t fuck off overseas, so my wife didn’t turf me out on my arse.

      You’re really fixated on this Centrelink thing – is that because you were treated particularly badly at Centrelink, even though your dad was a Cain government minister?

      You might note my comments are all outside work hours – simply because I’m too busy at work to fuck about with lickspittle leftist losers like you during working hours.

      Arthur Andersen? Gimme a break – I’m not with Accidenture.

      Mr Z: this IS the thread!

      Posted by Young and Free on 2005 07 29 at 04:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. Fuck me . . . sacked by John Cain! It doesn’t get any better.

      Posted by Young and Free on 2005 07 29 at 04:53 AM • permalink

 

    1. yep it’s true – mind you John Cain sacked Bill & let Rob Jolly keep running the treasury through Tricon, Pyramid etc etc – should probably have been the other way round

      you know there’s something wrong when the ministerial driver stops the car at the Wellington Parade TAB at 4.30 in the arvo because the treasurer of the state wants to but a bet on – i mean what sort of finance manager goes home that early?

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 29 at 05:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. and there are people in Geelong still having to work at over 70 because of the Pyramid collapse – socialism’s a wunnerful thang

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 29 at 05:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. jeez Y&F & andy landy, do i have to reach the target all on my own?

      Posted by KK on 2005 07 29 at 08:38 PM • permalink

 

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