ABDUL’S BOYS

Further details on those Auslim arrests in Yemen:

Two of the Australian men arrested in Yemen on terrorism charges are the sons of Abdul Rahim Ayub, the man who set up a Jemaah Islamiah cell here and fled after the Bali bombings.

The Herald can also reveal that the mother of the two brothers is an Australian-born woman called Rabiah Hutchison and is regarded by security agencies as possibly more radical than her former husband.

Ms Hutchison is in Yemen with her sons, Mohammed Ayub and Abdullah Ayub, and the Herald has been told that their tour group was joined by some of the wives of the men who were arrested on terrorism charges in Sydney one year ago.

The group – most of whom have been intensely monitored by ASIO for years – insist they went to Yemen to further their religious instruction.

And they seem to have done so.

Posted by Tim B. on 10/31/2006 at 12:39 PM
    1. Former husband?  Assuming he is still alive, how does divorce work in Islam?

      Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 10 31 at 12:59 PM • permalink

 

    1. In Islam, the husband says to the soon to be ex-wife,
      I divorce thee,
      I divorce thee,
      I divorce thee,

      and husband is now single.  Now do you see how much Islam values the institution of marriage?

      Posted by Mark Razak on 2006 10 31 at 01:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. Ah, but of course, I’d forgotten that.

      What about if the Mrs wants out, but decides she likes the house?
      (Rather common here and stateside I believe)

      Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 10 31 at 01:12 PM • permalink

 

    1. The pair’s lawyer, Adam Houda, was quoted in yesterday’s Sydney Morning Herald as saying “They wouldn’t be out of place in Byron Bay”. [No link available]

      And this we are expected to find reassuring?

      Posted by geoff on 2006 10 31 at 01:15 PM • permalink

 

    1. They may claim citizenship, but they never were Australian and never will be. They can rot.

      Posted by Maulman on 2006 10 31 at 01:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. The Herald can also reveal that the mother of the two brothers is an Australian-born woman called Rabiah Hutchison and is regarded by security agencies as possibly more radical than her former husband.

      An Auslim “Ma Barker”? What next?

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 10 31 at 01:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. In Islam, the husband says to the soon to be ex-wife,
      I divorce thee,
      I divorce thee,
      I divorce thee,

      You left out the part about throwing dog crap on her shoes. Or is that some other culture I’m thinking of?

      Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 10 31 at 02:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. The previous report said that all the men arrested had converted to Islam earlier this year. Surely that can’t be true of Rabiah’s boys Mohammed and Abdullah. Surely she wasn’t that derelict in her motherly duties.

      A former dope-smoking hippie radical burqa-wearing jihadista; a naturalized Polish-Ozzite Islamic convert—this is quite a cast of characters. Somebody call Hollywood.

      Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 10 31 at 02:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. #3:  Wiz, I’m not qualified to get into international family law issues, but Stateside, if the marriage was entered into by US citizens US divorce law applies to its dissolution. A Muslim male might deem himself divorced on a religious basis, but the State would not.  He’d have to do the whole formal law-court divorce to shed himself of his inconvenient spouse and alter/dissolve her rights to support, child custody, property settlements, etc.  Can’t think the situation in Oz would be much different.

      Posted by Celaeno on 2006 10 31 at 03:30 PM • permalink

 

    1. More money in family welfare payments if they stay together. He doesn’t have to pay child support and get a job to do so.

      Posted by CB on 2006 10 31 at 03:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. Gawd, I hope that’s not the same Hutchison family as Traceeeee’s.

      Posted by PW on 2006 10 31 at 04:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. the Herald has been told that their tour group was joined by some of the wives of the men who were arrested on terrorism charges in Sydney one year ago.

      These wouldn’t be the same women all bundled up in niqab who staged a press conference and screeched through their veils that their husbands had been falsely accused, would they?

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 10 31 at 04:44 PM • permalink

 

    1. A former dope-smoking hippie radical burqa-wearing jihadista; a naturalized Polish-Ozzite Islamic convert
      And you thought we were all just a bunch of relocated crims. You naive Americans.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 10 31 at 05:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. Thank you Mr Keating! Not.

      So typical of Islam this organised “protest” (if that’s how their religous culture describes this event, is typical of the lies and twists it weaves into their community and our beloved australia.
      p.s. Asma, the covered pork chop daughter of the thick sheik, plucks her eyebrows in a most lustful way.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2006 10 31 at 05:30 PM • permalink

 

    1. Also, just to let the covered meat know that we the Uncovered meat in Australia are supporting your dumb dumb tribe with our taxes. So stay at home but don’t use our services here “covered meat” women!

      Posted by 1.618 on 2006 10 31 at 05:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. Houda think they are, Houda gonna call if there’s somethin’ strange in your neighborhood Houda gonna call (Truthbuster) I ain’t afraid of no truth, If it’s somethin weird and it won’t look good we can always scream victmhood.

      Posted by Howzat on 2006 10 31 at 05:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. #16
      That’s good, Howzat.

      Posted by kae on 2006 10 31 at 07:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. 17# Thank you kae.

      Posted by Howzat on 2006 10 31 at 07:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. #7 It is possible you are channelling—through cellular memory perhaps—knowledge of an ancient custom known as “Chalitzah”.

      The ceremony involves the taking off of a brother-in-law’s shoe by the widow of a brother who has died childless, through which ceremony he is released from the obligation of marrying her, and she becomes free to marry whomever she desires (the ceremony need be performed with but one brother-in-law, in case you were about to ask).

      Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 31 at 08:02 PM • permalink

 

    1. MFloss, I was sure you made all that up. Just to be safe though, I went to Google – seems I owe you an apology.
      AskMoses.com backs you up 100% on Chalitzah, adding that Yibum is not performed very often nowadays. I would have lingered to learn more but it’s just about time for the daily goat sacrifice – later, all.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 10 31 at 08:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. #20 True, rarely these days do you see brothers-in-law lining up to marry the widow of their fallen sibling.

      No need to apologise, my son, doubt that ye may believe…

      Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 31 at 08:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. It is possible you are channelling—through cellular memory perhaps—knowledge of an ancient custom known as “Chalitzah”.

      No, actually it was an old Steve Martin routine.

      Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 10 31 at 08:54 PM • permalink

 

    1. Terrorism – The game the whole family can play.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 10 31 at 10:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. Do they have cousins in Canada named Khadr?

      Posted by andycanuck on 2006 10 31 at 10:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. A study tour to Yemen?

      Crikey they just could have gone to the Lakemba Mosque, then down the road to Melbourne to visit Brunswick’s own resident religious expert and teacher Sheikh Omran

      Good to know that ASIO were watching and may have had a hand in dobbing them in

      And they may end up in Guatanamo Bay is that right?

      Oh no – then we’ll have to put up with more handwringing

      Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 10 31 at 11:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. #19—which ceremony stems from the practice of levirate, the brother-in-law’s obligation to marry his widowed sister-in-law.  Which was Henry VIII’s original rationalization for marrying Catherine of Aragon.

      Posted by Celaeno on 2006 11 01 at 12:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. You know, that shoe-removal trick would have saved no end of trouble…

      Posted by Celaeno on 2006 11 01 at 12:26 AM • permalink

 

    1. The Herald can also reveal that the mother of the two brothers is an Australian-born woman called Rabiah Hutchison 
      ANYONE SEEN TRACEEEEEEE HUTCHISON?

      Those Hutchison’s are a crazy fun bunch of party poppin’ laugh bots…

      Posted by Bonmot on 2006 11 01 at 01:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. #27 Heh.

      Knowing old Hank #8, it would have been removed at the ankle…

      Levirate marriage fell into desuetude with the wise decision of the Rabbis at the time of Yavneh to formally invest the distaff side with establishment of lineage (after all, you always know who the mother is, eh?)

      Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 11 01 at 01:54 AM • permalink

 

    1. Y-e-e-s, setting aside the occasional warming-pan baby, it’s usually a pretty safe bet.

      Posted by Celaeno on 2006 11 01 at 03:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. Study tour of Yemen? Hmm.  Wasn’t poor widdle Davey Hicks on a study tour of Pakistan?

      Posted by murph on 2006 11 01 at 06:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. One of the Mr Ayubs was the principal of an Islamic College in an Oz capital city…until he secretly left the country.
      The J.I. group were allowed into Oz I think by a Labor govt.They claimed to be refugees fleeing “religious persecution in INDONESIA.”

      Posted by crash on 2006 11 01 at 09:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ms Hutchison’s former brother in law is said to be hiding out with Bali bombers in the Philippines.
      Ms Hutchison and her boys were detained in Teheran and released by Australian authorities and allowed to return “home”.
      She still calls Australia home?

      Posted by crash on 2006 11 01 at 10:53 AM • permalink

 

    1. it really is nice to see that they’re keeping with fine established religious traditions…

      first they wander the world looking for religious enlightenment, then – assuming they haven’t blown themselves up first – they ‘retire’ to a 6×8 cell to contemplate and pray for the rest of their lives.

      now all they need is the a high enough IQ to leave the rest of us out of the process and go straight to their ‘hermitage’ prior to their arrest.

      Posted by pache on 2006 11 02 at 09:13 AM • permalink

 

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